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Bonga Yoyo

1.00/5.00

"They give you a 14days cooling period…"

They give you a 14days cooling period if you've changed your mind and want to withdraw from enrolling with them in their course so you can get your money back but when you apply for that within that given period, they refuse with refunding you plus they rude about it. Wouldn't recommend it to anyone

14/10/2024

Valued Customer

3.00/5.00

"Good course"

Good course, although expensive and intense, found out later on you need additional training to get a job really, preferably frek 3 etc .. so but of a ballache, but still learnt a lot.

27/09/2024

Apenisa Naivalu

5.00/5.00

"Day and Night realistic operations. "

Conducting the day and night operations makes this course as realistic and hands on. What I enjoyed as well is the non combat day that has really open my eyes. Would recommend it to anyone.

27/09/2024

Chris M-Hansen

4.00/5.00

"A very intense but rewarding course"

A very intense but rewarding course, with trainers who are demanding but build you to a top standard of work that replicates real life CP environments. No matter wether your ex military, a normal person with a 9-5 or have just left college, you can definitely learn about yourself doing this course

27/09/2024

J. Williams

5.00/5.00

"A Great Course"

The course is challenging but rewarding and provides everything necessary to feel confident going out into the real world of CP.

27/09/2024

Scott

4.00/5.00

"Challenging but enjoyable"

Challenging but enjoyable

27/09/2024

Jack Burgess

1.00/5.00

"Phoenix is a waste of money with loads of filler. "

Do not fall for the bot accounts and scam reviews, this course is a waste of money, do your research. Having Phoenix on any form of paperwork/cv will stop you getting work, they have a history of deleting reviews and boosting ratings with fake accounts.

In house quals are a waste of money, are completely useless outside of phoenix, the course is all over the place with the first week being days with 12-13hrs in a classroom and then homework. Then later in the course it’s so much waiting around with no idea what’s going on, the main excuse given to us was we have other work to do, leaving us in the classroom for multiple hours.

Both instructors give different feedback that contradicts each other, with one saying it’s fine and the other saying you need more?!

God help you if you get put down as a driver for the course as that’s all you will do on all the “live Ops” is be a driver, especially if your course has a limited number of people they can put down as one.

Overall if they allowed you to skip the the firearms day (just 20 rounds of 22 with busted broken weapons that jam or have busted sights), unarmed combat day (all you get from this is injuries and nothing relevant you couldn’t learn in a day at any martial arts/boxing session) and evasive driving day (busted cars, no toilets in the middle of nowhere, learning how to drive close and J-turn that’s it, nothing more to offer on this day, just more standing around, shooting paintball guns is fun but you can just do that cheaper elsewhere.) If they made all these optional to bring the price down by £1000 would be a better sell.

Only saving grace is the people on the course with you, having a laugh with them in the hotel.

21/09/2024

Kieron Murphy

1.00/5.00

"DO NOT BE FOOLED (I was)"

For all military personnel (or anyone doing course research), please don't be foolish like I was, and use your ELCAS for this company who on reflection, rip good people off. The delivery of the course is sub standard and the attitude towards the students is borderline shocking and some serious questions should be asked of their moral duty.

I could honestly write a novel on why not to use Phoenix as your course provider including endless examples but please be extremely cautious before committing.

Check reviews but don't be fooled by the good ones - you're told before the course during the sales pitch that once passed, you will be on the Phoenix books and working. Obviously you're not going to start hammering your future employer (which you'll never be as they really aren't global leaders), so just be mindful of that.

My advice:
- DO NOT accept the promise of 11 internationally recognised qualifications in close protection as stated on their website, this is false advertising. Only 2 are recognised as awarded by an awarding body (SFJ and Highfield for this company). The additional £1000 paid for 3 of these 'pretend' qualifications is both morally and ethically wrong but they get away with it time after time.
- the salesperson has never been a member of the Royal Marines which is a common ice breaker when chatting to military prior to sale (another Walt).
- find a course which is less expensive which includes FREC3 (99% of the industry require this and it will help with employment over a basic 1st aid course provided.
- find a course that isn't Phoenix - they have a terrible reputation in the industry and it 100% affects job opportunities. Example 1 - one of the top tier CP companies won't touch me because of my course provider. Example 2 - another ex serviceman from my course literally did a top up course with another company straight after due to his current employer stating the same reason reference his course provider. Unless you're ex mil or have some very good connections, you won't get touched by reputable companies.
- if you do decide to go through with it, don't put anything to do with Phoenix on your CV. Same reason as above.
- listen to the ELCAS team when they ask you 3 times if you're sure you want this company. They cannot tell you to keep away but a subtle hint should raise a red flag or 2. (For info - a company registered with ELCAS have a pre requisite of needing a pulse, there is zero quality control).
- try not to live with regret like I do every day. It's too expensive for what is claimed to result in endless globally recognised qualifications. Apart from the CP and 1st Aid qualifications, the rest mean absolutely nothing as not awarded by a body. You could make them yourself on a computer and would mean the same i.e. absolutely worthless.

I could go on but thank you for your time in reading my review, hopefully it will remain and not be taken down to ensure future students have some honest feedback.

For info - I passed the course with 'merit' so I'm not writing anything to be bitter. I just want to pass on my experience now after being on the circuit for 9 months post 24 years in the British Army.

This is only my opinion as a former student which is allowed by UK law to protect my right to free speech. This is from an individual who has published a genuine and honest opinion about a product or service.

And no, I do not want any response from Phoenix thank you very much. This is based on reflection since my Dec 23 course...and I've been busy.

Kind regards


20/09/2024

A Miah

5.00/5.00

"Best CP course out there"

Best CP course out there. Life changing is an understatement. The skills you learn will not only help you out in your career, but also day to day life. For anyone thinking about it, dont think! Just do it! You wont regret it.

29/08/2024

MartF

1.00/5.00

"Bs company "

Every cp operative I've worked with have all said stay well clear of this BS company.

05/08/2024
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